another ornamental

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:35 pm

from Roman Romero public park

You may notice that the fingers are not from il-Pine

Post by **MWP admin** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:07 pm

Should I move this to Quiz JP?

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:36 pm

Solanaceae?

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:04 am

not a quiz MWP- because I dont`t know the name of this shrub...
Unfortunately I do not find my dried sample and hope that someone may know this thing.

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:16 am

yes, reminds me also of a Solanaceae like Cestrum (=Cestraceae) but I doubt...

Post by **MWP admin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:32 am

Could it be an albino/hybrid/var/subsp/forma/... of the yellow flowered Nicotiana glauca ??

Do you remember when is the flower time, maybe I can ask the gardener for you at Romeo romano?

Sdravko · Post by **Sdravko** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:04 am

should be Jochroma, but can not remember the species.

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:54 am

MWP: definitely not albino of Nicotiana and definitely no Iochroma. Unfortunately I`ve never seen the fruit and I even doubt the family, meanwhile.
Flower was in August (could be still in flower). Shrub is located about 50-75m on the left hand side of the entrance, I think almost across a bigger Tetraclinis tree. You can ask the 3 retired fellows where I made the pic!!

Would be great to contact the gardener but I am quite sure that he has no name for this ugly shrub ...

. I remember that there is also a shrub in the Argotti park, behind the big Dracaena draco. Btw: leaves are somewhat smooth and soft hairy, but the shrub is deciduous.

Post by **MWP admin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:03 pm

Which entrance becasue there are 3!

a) side entrance
b) entrance beside fountain
c) entrance/exit from orange grove

Assume we are at the central fountain of the garden, and I am looking towards the entrance beside the fountain, and I have a 12hour clock, which hour direction is the shrub (12hr = entrance, 6 = orange groves at the back)

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:55 pm

ohhh my goodness, I don`t know. I always come from the main road (from Valletta direction to Mdina) and make a sharp right turn, road is going down and I park soon on the left hand side and enter the park entrance on the right hand side. Sorry, that`s all I remember

Post by **MWP admin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:02 pm

Ok should be side entrance, beside guardian room on the right when entering in.

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:09 pm

well, I remember that at this road there are 2 entrances, and between both, the 3 retired men are sitting and discussing world problems

At the 3rd entrance in the opposite direction is a beautiful Laurus growing along a houe wall- very nice...

Post by **MWP admin** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:57 pm

I found the plant and looks like a relative of the Genus Datura. So, yes, I agree with you about Solanaceae family.

Post by **MWP admin** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:34 pm

Have you excluded / considered Genus solanum? Solanum bonariense have some similarities but it is not that in the photo.

Sdravko · Post by **Sdravko** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:25 pm

considered it but dismissed it quite early. still sure its Iochroma but unable to decide on the name of the cultivar.