august quiz from jackpot

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:06 pm

I like this plant, frequent in the wild of Malta- the flower (in July/August) is about 2mm in lenght!

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:48 am

What a beautiful pic! I don't have a clue what it is though!

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:14 pm

ok- some hints: a very close (but larger one) relative was presented with pics in this forum few months ago- the plant loves to climb up Xanthium in valleys!

robcar · Post by **robcar** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:32 am

Still no idea - I only saw Xanthium at Chadwick lakes, and did not see any plants climbing over it

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:49 am

do you wish a pic with the fruit?
(at least 5 people have to answer YES, PLEASE!)

Post by **MWP admin** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:58 pm

How many stamens it has?

Veronica is my first guess... how hot?

Post by **MWP admin** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:04 pm

V. cymbalaria / V. panormitana?

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:37 am

In reply to Jackpot's quote - YES

robcar · Post by **robcar** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am

YES PLEASE

, A pic with fruit will be nice - but I think I will still have difficulty with identifying this plant - till now I still have no idea

Post by **MWP admin** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:57 pm

Have you given a look / considered Veronica cym.? Myself, I would prefer number of stamens rather than fruit at first. (or both together of course!)

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:21 pm

...waiting...2 is not enough

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:54 pm

Mela, me, my girlfriend u n-nanna (my grandmother). Is that ok Jackpot

sandra · Post by **sandra** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:32 pm

ok...me to ... PLEASE

Post by **MWP admin** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:31 pm

I was quite sure about my Veronika.

Me too Profs! Show me the fruit. I will ask picus too (counts as 2 persons

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jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:33 pm

btw admini- you should remember thet picus and you are 3! (but I missed the PLEASE!)

ok- I number 8 people - that means 2 pics (rounded up)!
You have the choice for your decision

this one...or this one...

(Pine: fortunately you did not numerate all members of your family...I don`t know how many fruits I have in my collection

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Post by **MWP admin** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:02 am

Its like my S on the wc after an overdose of lemons

How many stamens please? 2, 4, 6, cluster? Brassicaceae?

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:16 pm

5 or 6

Post by **MWP admin** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:18 pm

A hybrid sort of thing ? Is the fruit/flower shown typical?

4 petals 4 sepals 6 stamens and not brassicaceae? hmmm... getting to my limits jackpot, sorry. Do you confirm the figures mentioned here?

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:07 pm

yes, and it is not very close related to the BRASSIKATSCHEAS

If you browse a special book

you will meet a very similar brother and will be surprised about the similarities

Post by **MWP admin** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:38 pm

How much I like the Italian Latin pronounciation!! Ok, I keep searching.... I dont give up easily!

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:29 pm

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:54 pm

A lemon!

Well, I still don't know anything about these ornamentals! I still have no clue though I believe I saw something similar on a quiz by Jackpot!

greenhorn · Post by **greenhorn** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:56 pm

The fruit looks like Cardiospermum, known in Homoeopatic and Indian Medizin.

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:06 pm

Hello GREENHORN!!! I missed you and I was close to ask you via email if everything is ok!
Il-Pine: it is not an ornamental! Greenhorn, again applaus- you are right with the genus!

greenhorn · Post by **greenhorn** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:18 pm

jackpot wrote:Hello GREENHORN!!! I missed you and I was close to ask you via email if everything is ok!
Il-Pine: it is not an ornamental! Greenhorn, again applaus- you are right with the genus!

Halicacabum???? The only one I know, is grandiflorum, and that should be larger.

robcar · Post by **robcar** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:20 pm

Is it Cardiospermum halicacabum?

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:25 pm

APPLAUSE- you win a (tiny) beer in December!!

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:28 pm

hupps- both-
ok, greenhorn, are you in Malta in December, too? However, 2 tiny beers...

robcar · Post by **robcar** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:47 pm

I think that greenhorn deserves the beer not me - once you confirmed that greenhorn identified the genus, it was than easy to get the species.

With the flower only, i had absolutely no idea. When you put the pictures of the fruit I immediately thought of Cardiospermum, but I was under the (obviously very wrong) impression that only C. grandiflorum is present in Malta (and even that I first learnt from one of your previous quizzes) and so thought that it must be something else I knew nothing about

How frequent is C. halicacabum? I guess it is a recent introduction to our flora. Could it be invasive? Can you suggest a location where i can find it?

jackpot · Post by **jackpot** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:54 pm

robcar: I know only 1 location (Ghajn Rihana)- at the bridge of its crossing main road, go to the left hand side, you will find it together with Xanthium, Typha and Alisma at the last pool before the path divides to the right and to the left.