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Two other fruits

Post by greenhorn » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:41 am

Fruit a about 150 mm and the other one ca 100mm.
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Post by MWP admin » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:49 pm

Are yo usaying that they are 15cm and 1ocm respectively?? They seem to be smaller in the photos and so maybe there is some metric mistake in your post.
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Post by greenhorn » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:22 pm

So sorry!!! 1,5 and 1,0 cm. I should have learned, not to do things in a hurry!

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Post by MWP admin » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:52 pm

1: Malvaceae?
2: Ranunculaceae? (delphinium)
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Post by greenhorn » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:09 pm

1 Yes; 2 No.

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Post by jackpot » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:48 pm

:wink: greenhorn, sorry- I missed your quiz:

1. genus Malva or Lavatera (none of them!)
2. not a Ranunculaceae? (excellent idea from MWP)- is the pic upside down?

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Post by greenhorn » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:11 pm

1. Malva
2. Upside up; really no Ranunculacea!!!

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Post by jackpot » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:43 am

Very interesting your pic- greenhorn you will laugh: together with my 2 professional botanists we study and discuss your pic. The opinions are
1. curious Fabaceae (I do not agree)
2. Oenanthe globulosa (I do not agree)
3. A Liliales-member (my doubtful opinion)

So, you see, we need more information. Questions:
a. is the whole thing one fruit from a 5-merous flower?
b. an annual?
c. flower was inconspicuous?

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:49 am

Could pic 2 be a Rosidea? -> Apiaciae?
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:15 am

Super!!! Rosidae is correct.

Answers for JP:
Could not find merous in the dictionaries. If You mean 5 petalae, the answer is Yes.
It is perennial.
It is conspicous, like You can see in Your last book.

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:52 am

Geraniaceae? (idea from the pointed beak)

Rosidae1 or Rosidae2 :D

PS: -merous = -parted or -parts for example refering to number of organs.
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:06 am

Rosidae 2, no Geraniacea.

Thanks for translation!

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:16 am

Fagonia cretica ... feeling lucky 8)
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:02 pm

Bravo!!!

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:01 pm

:glasses11:
TNX - never seen th fruit in life!
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Post by jackpot » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:02 pm

he- great! Good quiz, greenhorn & good answer MWP (never seen Fagonia fruits).

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Post by greenhorn » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:17 pm

Nice, that You all like it!
But please don`t forget the other one.

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Post by jackpot » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:01 pm

it is not sylvestris, not nicaeensis, not parviflora- so, there is only 1 left!!! :)

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Post by greenhorn » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:22 pm

The fruit grew on this plant; if it`s cretica my identification was wrong!!!
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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:22 pm

I had a similar plant pic and I guessed (with some minor confirmatioons from the experts) that it is Malva parviflora.

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Post by jackpot » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:34 am

no doubt, this is Malva parviflora ( :lol: 2 days ago I desribed this one for the next edition). Ok, I did not recognized that the fruit in your first pic was a pretty old one and not a usually known fruit as shown in your second pic.
Interesting the change of the calyx and hairs in those old stages (stimulating me for research as well as your pic of the Fagonia ) fruit.

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Post by greenhorn » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:58 am

24 days between the two pics.

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