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And what`s about this one?

Post by greenhorn » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:32 pm

Taken end of May
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Post by MWP admin » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:12 pm

I would say Beta maritima or an Amaranth
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Post by greenhorn » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:45 pm

It`s a cousin of Beta.

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Post by MWP admin » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:12 am

Hmmm... a chenopodiaceae ... Darniella mlt?
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Post by greenhorn » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:02 am

So sorry, but no.
The height of this plant is more than 2 mtrs. And You can eat the leafes, not JP only.

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Post by IL-PINE » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:15 pm

so Beta vulgaris

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Post by greenhorn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:40 pm

Really not Beta.

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Post by MWP admin » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:43 am

Atriplex? Actually I have some 15 photos in my archive which should be this plant and in the unknown category. I had the idea that it is some Atriplex spp.
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Post by greenhorn » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:24 am

Prima!!! It is Atriplex .

Btw, what`s about Your journey to the North?

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Post by MWP admin » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:38 pm

12 days to go more for 6 weeks. I really look foward as I really worked hard this 9 months for the website. The opera is still in its behind the curtain :-)

BTW, yr photo is Atriplex prostrata right? Photos of my specimen are laying on the ground wit hascending tips. The bract and fruit is exactly the same as in your photo.
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Post by greenhorn » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:36 pm

At first a short and not too hot time at home, a nice and safe trip and a wonderfull time for You and Your family.

But do You really eat leafs of A. prostrata?

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Post by MWP admin » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:23 am

In Malta we (or I) do not eat any Atriplex spp.

The prostrata idea came since my plant was prostrate. Have a look at the first set of photos from a specimen in Marsalforn. Maybe yours is A. halimus, but mine was not bushy, or maybe young plants have this prostrate habit at first.
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Post by greenhorn » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:53 am

This one I identified as A. prostrata and hope, that is correct.
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Post by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:37 am

Hi GreenHorn,

Do you think that the Quiz Atriplex plant and my plant are the same species which I do not think it is A. prostrata from the leaf-shape.

Also, your quiz plant is not A. halimus right?
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Post by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:49 am

Neither halimus nor prostrata.

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:35 am

Ok, finally I got myself to look into Haslam and eliminating one by one, it resulted (and I am quite sure) that it is Atriplex patula. The similar Atriplex hastata should have a flat or indented base.
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Post by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:05 pm

Remind please, it is eatable, and some Gozitan Farmers propagate it and serve it like spinach.
At google I coudn`t find a Synonyme for the name, I have in mind.

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:14 pm

Hmm.. in another document, A. patula is described very rare :?: :?: :?: so I wonder if mine is A. patula or just a Beta maritima. What a confusing family - I'm lost
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Post by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:47 pm

That patula You find in Germany as "weed to kill" in the fields and has more blueish (?) leafs like Yours. And it`s smaller than mine.
If it`s very rare, no wonder, I never met it on Gozo.

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Post by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:00 pm

Here a solitary plant in a field
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Post by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:39 pm

This and my plant are not the same, though the inflorescences are similar. Atriplex portulacoides would be my last guess befor I give up.
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:51 pm

Sorry, no; please remember: it grows in a GARDEN.

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:54 pm

I give like the others now :-(
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:05 pm

Atriplex hortensis

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:07 pm

Are you sure? It is not listed in haslam Flora ! - Probably introduced recentely then.
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:58 pm

I know, that neither Borg nor Haslam nor Weber ( he till now )
list it, but I tried, to identify it carefully, when I found it in Bärtels Colour-Atlas of mediterranean Plants by Ulmer.

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Post by MWP admin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:46 pm

Was it just one plant you saw, or few more? I'll show this post to Edwin.

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Post by greenhorn » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:38 pm

The first plants, I saw, grow in Wied Infern and some days later I saw this one near the farm at the end of Triq ta Konti in Zebbug; that is near Grazias house, where, as I suppose, You took that Althaea rosea- Photo.

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Post by Edwin Lanfranco » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:16 pm

The plant in question is Beta vulgaris, the cultivated beet, which occasionally escapes

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Post by MWP admin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:13 pm

so Beta vulgaris
You're a genius pine :wink: :P :P :P

Thanks Edwin, I'll put No.1 in he consultant list in my new version of the website next Autumn.
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